Questions tagged [deponent-verbs]
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Shouldn't this est be a sunt in this sentence?
This is a famous quote from Cicero:
Num unum diem postea L. Saturninum tribunum plebis et C.Servilium praetorem mors ac reipublicae poena remorata est?
The verb remorari is deponent, so the subjects ...
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Why is the verb of the main clause not in the infinitive in this oratio obliqua?
Caesar milites cohortatus est ne ea, quae accidissent, graviter ferrent neve his rebus terrentur
We have indirect speech, the main verb is a deponent verb who is in the perfect past but shouldn't it ...
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Why feminine is used in "haec locuta"?
The following sentence comes from lines 74–75 of chapter XXV of Lingua latina per se illustrata. Familia Romana, after Ariadna has said some words to Theseus:
Haec locūta, Ariadna Thēseō fīlum longum ...
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Defective verbs having both non-deponent and deponent forms
It seems like there are several verbs that have both deponent and non-deponent forms and they coincidentally are defective. So, for example, there is patio which has a deponent patior meaning the same ...
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Potior - Deponent verb with passive meaning?
I am working through Jenney's Ssecon-Year Latin wherein he has a digest of the Jason and the Argonauts story and I need to translate the following sentence:
Constituit Pelias Iasoni negotiam dare, ut ...
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When are deponent perfect forms used with a present meaning?
As Cerberus mentions in this answer:
With many (semi-)deponent verbs, the perfect participle often has a present meaning.
And in the comments:
I thought this was commonly known, but apparently not.
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Parsing "oblita carmina"
Vergil wrote (Eclogues IX.51–4), quoted by Draconis in this answer:
Omnia fert aetas, animum quoque. Saepe ego longos
cantando puerum memini me condere soles.
Nunc oblita mihi tot carmina: vox quoque ...
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How can we say "a forgotten war" in Latin?
How can we say "a forgotten war" in Latin?
You know what I'm really getting at: I'm asking "How to make a deponent passive in meaning?" but with a specific and puzzling example. ...
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Why is nominative instead of ablative absolute used in 'Ibi egressi Trojani'?
In LLPSI 2 'Roma Æterna', Chapter XLI 'Origines', it is written:
Ibi [Siciliâ] egressi Trojani, quibus ab immenso prope errore nihil præter arma et naves supererat, cum prædam ex agris agerent, ...
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The verb 'utor' in gerundive constructions
I was wondering about the logic of the usage of the verb utor in gerundive constructions. The following relevant quote is from Woodcock's (1959: 164) A New Latin Syntax: "one can say ad hanc rem ...
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Are future active participles of deponent verbs used in place of future passive participles? Why?
In form, nātūrus is a future active participle of the (deponent) verb nāscor – which otherwise only appears in passive forms – and is used to mean about to rise and, taken literally, about to be born, ...
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Future Imperative of Deponents: 3 or 4 existing forms?
For most verbs there are 4 future imperative forms, right?
Here an example:
But now I did research on deponents and found following table:
Now my question is if there are really only 3 forms of the ...
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Deponent verb participle gender
If we consider a deponent verb such as arbitrārī in the perfect tense, hence arbitrātus sum/es/est, is the participle arbitrātus supposed to be declined like a regular adjective? For example if one ...
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participium coniunctum vs. ablative absolute of transitive deponent verbs
I was wondering why the "active meaning" and the transitivity of deponent perfect participles like cohortatus in (1) are not naturally preserved in the Ablative Absolute in (2). Why is it ...
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What is the origin of the deponent verbs and their evolution in Romance languages?
How deponent (and semi-deponent) verbs appeared in Latin, and why?
How did they evolve in descend languages? They seem extincts in descend languages (why?) but there are probably specific structured ...
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Gone But Not Forgotten
On the Andrew Marr TV-prog (Sunday, 10/11/2019) General Sir Nicholas Carter was interviewed. When Marr asked about the declining interest in Remembrance-Day Commemorations, the general quoted ...
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Can you split "natus sum"?
What are the conditions to make a reasonable hyperbate?
Reasonable, I mean, if I don't want to sound to poetical, as I know the word order is more free in poetry, the same rules for word orders don't ...
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ante solem occasum vs. *ante diem adventum
The intransitive verbs that typically enter into constructions with perfect participles of the so-called "dominant" type are deponent: e.g., ante Ciceronem mortuum, post Ciceronem natum, etc....
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More verbs like "mensuro", active verb derived from deponent?
I just read on Wiktionary that the Late/Vulgar verb mensuro (I measure) comes from Classical mensura (a measure or measurement), which comes from mensus, the perfect participle of the deponent verb ...
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Do non-deponent Latin verbs ever have a "middle voice"?
In Ancient Greek, verbs often take a "middle voice", neither active nor passive. The forms usually look identical to the passive on the surface, but can take direct objects and cannot take an agent (...
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Could the vulgar verb "toccari" have existed in Vulgar Latin?
As a follow-up of the previous interesting question (Did the Vulgar Latin verb "toccare" exist? ), could the vulgar Vulgar Latin verb toccari (in the sense of the deponent verb masturbari) ...
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What is the difference in meaning/usage between "nasciturus" and "nascendus"?
Both nasciturus and nascendus seem to exist. Words ending in -turus are often described as future active participles, and words ending in -ndus as future passive participles (they are also called ...
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Why is dignetur used as if it were in the active voice?
For 2 Thessalonians 1:11, the Vulgata has the following:
In quo etiam oramus semper pro vobis: ut dignetur vos vocatione sua
Deus nosteret impleat omnem voluntatem bonitatis, et opus fidei in
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Is there something like an "anti-deponent" verb in Latin?
Deponent verbs are those who are written (normally) in passive form but are active in meaning. loquor, loquī, locūtus sum is a common example in Latin. I wonder if the opposite exists, i.e. a verb ...
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Revertere or reverti in transitive use?
If I want to use the verb revertere/reverti transitively (with an object different from the subject), should I choose active or passive forms?
Intuition suggests that active forms are preferred for ...
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Are there classical examples of the imperative patere?
I wanted to see how the imperative patĕre of pati is used and I made a corpus search.
However, most of the results seem to be polluted with the infinitive patēre, and I'm having hard time ...
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Are Deponent Verbs a feature of the Latin Language or Means of Translation?
sequi as an example is a deponent verb. All forms are translated active, but look like passive forms.
Is this a feature of the Latin language (i.e. were contemporary linguists aware of such a feature)...
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What is the uncontracted form of "κεῖμαι"? (Greek)
I got this word κεῖμαι while trying to learn ὑποκείμενον, found in this answer to another question.
All the deponent verbs I've run across so far had an ο for theme vowel, as in: βούλομαι or ...
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How to make a deponent passive in meaning?
I was thinking about the verb sequi, a deponent which means to follow. I was wondering, how do you put the deponent into a passive form?
So is it possible to translate the following sentences into ...
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Is the perfect participle in deponent verbs active or passive in meaning?
I recently read this interesting question in which Joonas provides a very instructive answer. It still left me, however, with some questions.
"Confitentes iterum ac tertio interrogavi supplicium ...
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How do I use gerundives of obligation for deponent verbs?
(Inspired by the comments on this answer.)
The gerundive of obligation is a wonderful little idiom in Latin, as in Cato's famous mantra
Carthāgō dēlenda est "Carthage must be destroyed"
In this ...
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Formation of participles from deponent verbs
Here I have the deponent verb
persequor, persequi, persecutus sum, persecutum. Following standard deponent rules, I am able to form the following (apparently these active participles are active in ...
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Comparing verto and vertor
Here I have two words:
verto, vertere, verti, versum (versus)
vertor, verti, versus sum, — (I assume it's deponent)
They both mean "turn" according to the Cambridge Latin Course Book V, ...
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Can a verbum deponens go along with an accusativus?
In Plinius I encountered:
"Confitentes iterum ac tertio interrogavi supplicium minatus"
Is supplicium some sort of accusativus belonging to minatus, which comes from deponens minor?
If a form is ...
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When and where was the non-deponent form of verb "miror" used?
I've heard that deponent verb "miror" also had a non-deponent form. As far as I know it was in medieval Latin. So is it true? When exactly was the verb "mirare" used? Was it used everywhere, or was it ...
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Are there examples of passive imperative forms of non-deponent verbs in ancient literature?
Imperative forms and deponent verbs are quite common ancient Latin literature, and imperative forms of deponent verbs also occur.
But are there examples of passive imperative forms of non-deponent ...
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