Timeline for 'Concepturus' and 'nasciturus' in legal terminology
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| Aug 20, 2021 at 17:57 | comment | added | Sebastian Koppehel | @GeorgeNtoulos Several good links regarding deponents habe already been given. As for the gerundive, well, take for example the sentence "Scelera Catliniae non sunt ferenda" -- what does this future active participle have to do with the future? But this is indeed a whole different can of worms... | |
| Aug 20, 2021 at 0:58 | comment | added | Ben Kovitz | @GeorgeNtoulos That sounds like several more questions. I especially like "How can I recognize a deponent verb?" The quick explanation of deponent verbs, though, is that they have passive form but active meaning; their participles all have active meaning (except the gerundive). | |
| Aug 19, 2021 at 22:32 | comment | added | George Ntoulos | How does that work? What happens with deponent verbs? Active becomes Passive and Passibe become impersonal or unusable? How can I recognize a deponent verb? When I encounter the future active participle of a deponent verb will it always carry the meaning of a future passive participle? What happens with the gerundive and it's connection with the future; why is it tenuous? | |
| Aug 19, 2021 at 22:02 | comment | added | Sebastian Koppehel | No, it should not be nascendus! The gerundive retains its passive meaning even in deponent verbs. Thus it cannot be used with intransitive verbs, which nasci is (I cannot “be born my neighbour” etc.) except in impersonal use (nunc est nascendum = “it's time to be born” or whatever). As an aside, the gerundive has a rather tenuous connection with the future, plus it already has a perfectly nice name (gerundive), so I personally prefer not to call it a future passive participle. | |
| Aug 19, 2021 at 21:29 | comment | added | George Ntoulos | Isn't the use of nasciturus (naturus) wrong? Shouldn't it too be nascendus instead? I never understood "morituri te salutant". Why not moriendus? How can the future active participle be used in the place of future passive participle? | |
| Aug 19, 2021 at 19:42 | history | answered | Sebastian Koppehel | CC BY-SA 4.0 |