Timeline for Inconsistent use of short and long vowel signs
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| Jul 3, 2021 at 9:46 | comment | added | bobsmith76 | Ouvrard not Orchard | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 8:41 | comment | added | bobsmith76 | Actually, let me make sure that you're not doing work that I already know about. I have got files of 7 open source dictionaries which contained vowel quantity info these are: Lewis&Short (1879), Lewis (1890), Georges (1913), Gaffiot (1934), Pocket Oxford (1991?) - then there Jeanneau and Orchard but I'm pretty sure they just copied from the others, though they do provide some new words. I have gathered stats on how often these 5 dicts agree with one another, including the other 2 copyists. I'm trying to figure out who the odd man out is. I'll assembled the stats in an easy to read format. | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 5:09 | comment | added | bobsmith76 | Asteroides i would appreciate that. i'll probably be opening another thread on the issue soon | |
| Jun 23, 2021 at 3:47 | vote | accept | bobsmith76 | ||
| Jun 23, 2021 at 3:47 | comment | added | bobsmith76 | Thanks I appreciate that. | |
| Jun 23, 2021 at 3:38 | comment | added | Asteroides | @bobsmith76: There are many online resources with information about Latin vowel length, but unfortunately it can be difficult to determine their accuracy or to find the accurate ones. I will also try to update with links to further resources | |
| Jun 23, 2021 at 3:30 | comment | added | bobsmith76 | However, doing a google search I have not yet figured out when the Jeanneau dict was written. It says 2017 on the software but years sometimes are wrong on the internet. Plus I don't know if the Jeanneau dictionary is a revision of the Gaffiot dictionary or what. I get very upset that people put this info on the internet and they don't tell us where they get it or how reliable it is. I'll do some more research in this question soon but not now. | |
| Jun 23, 2021 at 3:24 | comment | added | bobsmith76 | If I were to use a physical dictionary I would have no chance. | |
| Jun 23, 2021 at 3:24 | history | edited | Asteroides | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 23, 2021 at 3:23 | comment | added | bobsmith76 | I use online dictionaries and usually the front matter is hidden. My favorite dictionary is the Jeaunneau dictionary available at Collatinus. They have translated examples, plus it is more nicely laid out. | |
| Jun 23, 2021 at 3:08 | history | edited | Asteroides | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 23, 2021 at 2:53 | history | edited | Asteroides | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 23, 2021 at 2:49 | comment | added | Figulus | @bobsmith76 Every dictionary I own tells me how long vowels are marked and how to interpret short vowels in the front matter. I guess you'll just have to read the front matter if you want to learn it, and it is often different from dictionary to dictionary. | |
| Jun 23, 2021 at 2:36 | comment | added | bobsmith76 | Well that's extremely unfortunate. I don't understand how I'm supposed to learn this. | |
| Jun 23, 2021 at 2:34 | comment | added | Asteroides | @bobsmith76: It's usually not safe to assume that. | |
| Jun 23, 2021 at 2:06 | comment | added | bobsmith76 | so if an author is marking long vowels with a macron but haphazardly marks a few vowels as short here and there should I just assume that any unmarked vowel is short? | |
| Jun 23, 2021 at 1:45 | history | edited | Asteroides | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 23, 2021 at 1:25 | history | answered | Asteroides | CC BY-SA 4.0 |