Timeline for How to say "Third time lucky" in Latin
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| Aug 16, 2019 at 19:59 | comment | added | Mitomino | @tony. Thanks for the additional info. I think that Ad triarios ventum est is better translated with the proverb "It is come to the last push" (no one was after them. So it was the last opportunity to win but it was the best one since Triarii were considered the bravest ones). But, as you say above, probably, Romans didn't say "Third time lucky". | |
| Aug 16, 2019 at 12:51 | comment | added | tony | @Mitomino: Wiki gives a triarius as a tactical unit of the Roman Republican Army, during the Samnite Wars (343-290 BC)--shock troops/ cammandoes, perhaps? So called "manipular units" from "manipulus = a handful". | |
| Aug 16, 2019 at 12:47 | comment | added | tony | @Mitomino: The Spanish indicates that the Roman Army was divided into three ranks: the second, braver than the first; the third (triarius), braver still, and more meritorious than the second. So "ad triarios ventum est" = to the Third--it has come" (presumably, after the failure if 1st & 2nd.) hence "third time lucky"? | |
| Aug 15, 2019 at 12:56 | comment | added | tony | @Mitomino: Did Romans say: "Third time lucky"? In the trenches of WW1 it was a case of third-time unlucky. It was considered bad luck to light a third cigarette, from the same match. This was actually true. The time required to light three cigs, gave enemy snipers ample opportunity, to shoot at the clearly-visible, burning-match, with predictable consequences. | |
| Aug 12, 2019 at 3:23 | history | edited | YerkoBits | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Aug 11, 2019 at 1:33 | comment | added | Mitomino | Many thanks, Yerko, for your answer. I'm also grateful to you since I didn't know about the "Diccionario" written by the priest Esteban de Terreros (cf. books.google.es/… ). An appropriate English translation of the Lat. impersonal passive ad triarios ventum est, which I've just seen was adopted from Livy (VIII, 8, 10), could be the proverb "It is come to the last push". | |
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| Aug 10, 2019 at 23:04 | history | answered | YerkoBits | CC BY-SA 4.0 |