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Is Nescibat valid for Nesciēbat?

A corpus search shows 18 hits for scibam including four with ne- and 4 hits for scibat with none with ne-. The variants sciebam and sciebat have 79 and 145 hits (15 and 22 with ne-), respectively. ...
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When did unsyncopated forms become archaic?

Manu Leumann's Lateinische Laut- und Formenlehre (Munich 1977) groups the contraction of -āvis- to -ās- in forms like amāstī and amāssem together with the contraction of -āver- to -ār- in forms like ...
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Understanding "audieritis" in Psalm 94

You might be surprised to learn that forms with -āv- and -īv- (amāvī, audīvī) are extremely rare in Classical Latin, considered archaic and pretentious by major grammarians! It certainly came as a ...
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Contracted perfect and historical infinitive

After talking to another classicist, I can offer some thoughts, though sadly without definitive sources. It seems unlikely that the two are related, for various reasons: Contracted perfects are ...
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Can I contract with an irregular perfect stem in v?

V can be lost when it acts as a perfect "suffix" (not found in the present stem) Cser 2016 gives the rule that -v- cannot be lost when it is "part of the lexical makeup of the verb"...
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Do contracted perfects have long or short vowels?

The vowel is definitely thought to have been long in forms like amāsti. In my comment, I was saying that the first vowel might be shortened in certain forms that show loss of intervocalic -v- ...
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Can I contract with an irregular perfect stem in v?

I think this is not normally done, except if the perfect stem ends on -ev/iv/av-, because only then does one get the familiar contracted sequences -esti/isti/asti. The sequence -usti would look too ...
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Do contracted perfects have long or short vowels?

I agree with sumelic's answer in that the vowel is long before a consonant in forms like amasti and iurarunt. The unexpected shortening you are asking about occurs in my understanding exclusively when ...
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Can I contract with an irregular perfect stem in v?

The other answers explain the "what" very well; I wanted to add a bit on the "why". According to Brent Vine (in Klein's Handbook of Comparative and Historical Indo-European Linguistics): These [...
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