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What if...? (Interrogative conditionals)

The phrase quid si (hundreds of examples) was not at all unheard of. It works for both possible and impossible conditionals, and impossibility is best expressed by choosing perfect or pluperfect ...
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How would one express this type of conditional in Latin?

I would use a future less vivid conditional. This type of conditional talks about something that might happen in the future, but probably won't, and often corresponds to conditionals with the word &...
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Irreal condition expressed by a prepositional phrase

Here's an example from Cicero, Academica 1.24 (it even uses the preposition sine). The general parallelism of the ideas introduced by neque...neque makes it clear that the prepositional phrase is ...
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What does a "si" clause followed by a "nisi" clause mean?

It doesn't make any sense because it's not a Latin construction. The Latin appears to be a translation of the Greek: εἰ ἔσται τὰ ἔτη ταῦτα δρόσος καὶ ὑετὸς ὅτι εἰ μὴ διὰ στόματος λόγου μου. This ...
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Can a relative adjective begin a conditional statement in Attic Greek?

Yes, the construction is the same whether the relative is modifying a noun (relative adjective) or not (relative pronoun). The latter type is more frequent, but there are examples of the former, e.g. ...
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What does a "si" clause followed by a "nisi" clause mean?

I found this in an online version of Plater & White's A grammar of the Vulgate: In emphatic speech, especially in adjurations, si = a negative Here are some of the attestations: 'semel ...
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Irreal condition expressed by a prepositional phrase

The first example that came to my mind was, VG Ioh 15:5: Sine me nihil potestis facere / without me you can do nothing It is put by John in the mouth of Jesus preaching. This, of course, does not ...
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Translation of would

So what's going on here is that 19th century Latin textbooks never caught up with the 20th century. Toss all the "would/should" nonsense. That's not how we talk anymore. Here's how we would ...
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Present vs. perfect tense in potential conditions

In the Wiki article, "Latin Tenses", under Conditional Sentences: "...the 'ideal' conditional, which supposes an unlikely but theoretically possible future scenario ('if this were to ...
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Subjunctive Protasis and Aorist Indicative Apodosis

It's still a present general conditional. You might have noticed in some grammars that they will say for the present general apodosis, it takes the "present indicative or an equivalent." The ...
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Imposing Conditions On The Conditional

There are a couple issues to sort out. First, the past tense of certain verbs such as debeo, possum, oportet, etc., can carry counterfactual force, even when in the indicative. This can occur in ...
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How would one express this type of conditional in Latin?

I agree with Draconis's answer that a future less vivid conditional is the best choice here, but I think the specific subtype of future less vivid that's most appropriate is the type with a perfect ...
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What are the differences between conditional and proviso clauses?

I suppose they're pretty similar: dum here means 'provided that'/'so long as'; si just means 'if'. They might sometimes be interchangeable, but not always: imagine Caligula saying oderint si metuunt? [...
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What does a "si" clause followed by a "nisi" clause mean?

This is conditional sentence, and 'si' is the sign of the conditional here; 'Si', (if) with 'nisi' (unless) , the negative ni- refers to the principal clause, which is thus denied, if the conditional ...
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Greek: syntax of dilemmas in the past

Here is a potentially similar example of a past dilemma from Diogenes Laertius (3rd c. AD), Vitae Philosophorum, in which he uses the aorist optative for the protasis. The surrounding clause is in ...
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If you do something long enough

For the butter example, I think a future more vivid is probably the way to go, since it's explaining the logical facts of the case and is as direct as direct can be. Cf. Cato's si me rogabis, sic ...
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If you do something long enough

If you continue to look into the abyss then when does the abyss take its turn to look into you? Do you stand there forever; or, until you starve to death or just fall asleep? By definition, at some ...
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Oblique cases and 'si quis'

I found this statement in an Oxford Latin Syntax Volume I, 11.137 "the anaphoric pronoun is": For the anaphoric pronoun a distinction must be made between the oblique forms and the ...
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Verb forms after "tamquam si"

It possible to read the sentence with fueris having a perfect meaning: "… as if you had dined with me." I read the idea roughly like "I have accepted you as a guest in my house in the past, and ...
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