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"Drawing the target around the arrow"

The infamous Texas sharpshooter fires randomly at a barn door and then paints the targets around the bullet holes, creating the false impression of being an excellent marksman. The sharpshooter ...
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Quote from Cicero

In a manuscript note written by Giovanni Poleni (1683-1761) for his mathematical lectures, I found the following remark: "De ideis, quibus imaginari debamus etiam res quas non videamus. Gallus a ...
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Origin of Cicero quote

"I criticize by creation, not by finding fault." Is this translation indeed a Cicero quote? What is the source and the original in Latin?
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Why does Cicero change gear in this example from the Catiline Orations?

In Cic, Catil. 2.3.5 there is: "hos quos video volitare in foro, quos stare ad curiam, quos etiam in senatum venire, qui nitent unguentis, qui fulgent purpura, mallem secum suos milites ...
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Domino notus erat: Agent ablative without a preposition?

I am reading the LLPSI excerpt of Rhetorica ad Herennium (in LLPSI: Sermones Romani, Chapter Ostentator Pecuniosi). Near Line 64, Ørberg wrote a margin note: pro notitia domini: quia domino notus ...
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Looking for the source of Cicero quote

I'm looking for a source of a quote for my statistics article. The English-translated quote is found in the 1911 British Encyplopedia. From what I understand Sextus Empiricus quotes Cicero as saying: &...
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What is the role of "ipso" in this quote from Cicero?

Following on from Q: Why is accusative pronoun "te" used in this construction?, in this quote from Cicero: "nihil necesse est mihi de me ipso dicere, quamquam est id quidem senile ...
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What's the role of the word "scribam" in this Cicero's sentence?

This sentence comes from a letter by Cicero to Atticus written when the former is in exile. It can be found in Epistulae ad Atticum 3, 5: Ad te quid scribam nescio. I understand that "nescio&...
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Greek "datives of agent" in Latin classical prose?

When including the following poetic examples from Horace and Ovid in what turned out to be a long answer to a previous post on datives of agent, I made this hesitant remark: Perhaps I'm wrong but I'd ...
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Anticausative/Mediopassive constructions in perfect form?

I was wondering what is the correct analysis/interpretation of exstincta sunt in the following text from Cicero: quarum rerum recordatio et memoria si una cum illo occidisset, desiderium ...
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Cicero about paragraph marks

I have looked on the Internet about books with no punctuation marks and found a post by Thomas Musselman at Quora: Punctuation is a post-3rd Century invention so when you read older texts you are ...
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Are all of Cicero's writings considered models?

When translating into Latin or writing in Latin, is there a hierarchy between Cicero's writings? For example, if one construction is used in one of his letters and another in one of his speeches, can ...
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Cethegus (...) recitatis litteris debilitatus atque abiectus conscientia repente conticuit. (Cic. Catil. 3, 10)

I was wondering about the correct/preferred syntactic analysis of recitatis litteris in the following complex sentence from Cicero: Tum Cethegus, qui paulo ante aliquid tamen de gladiis ac sicis, ...
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Is there an "comprehensive" list of Tironian symbols?

I am willing to create a font family for typesetting tironian notes. To do so, I am looking for a list of the symbols used (especially during Roman times) as comprehensive as possible. The Wikipedia ...
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Cicero sentence

I have some difficulties to understand this sentence from Cicero - De Legibus "praeter Idaeae matris famulos eosque justis diebus ne quis stipem cogito" remark : Idaeae matris stands for ...
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At what level of Latin would I be able to understand the writings of Cicero without translating to English?

I have been using the learning to read Latin textbook and workbook for some time now to teach myself Latin plus some occasional instruction from a priest. I find I need to translate everything I read ...
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On the analysis of "mihi" in "Praesidium mihi in perpetuum comparatum est" (Cic. Cat. 3.12.27)

I was wondering about the correct analysis of the dative mihi in the sentence Magnum enim est in bonis praesidium quod mihi in perpetuum comparatum est, which is included in the text below from Cic. ...
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What does “fac posse” mean in Epistulae ad Atticum VII.22?

I am reading the following passage in the Ecce Romani series: Tradam igitur isti me? Fac posse tuto (multi enim hortantur), num etiam honeste? — Cicero, Epistulae ad Atticum VII.22 It is the first ...
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What word does 'iucunda' modify in this sentence from Cicero?

I am reading a letter fom Cicero to his friend Atticus and can't quite pinpoint exactly how the word iucunda functions thereof: "Nam mihi omnia, quae iūcunda ex hūmānitāte alterius et mōribus ...
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Where in ‘quibus vidēmus optābilīs mortēs fuisse’ is the act of choosing expressed?

Towards the end of Cicero’s Tusculan disputations book 1, he says: Ita sunt multī, quibus vidēmus optābilīs mortēs fuisse cum glōriā. Cic. Tusc. 1.116 My translation of this is presently ‘So many ...
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How is this Quote from Cicero's "ad Atticum 15.20.3" to be Translated?

While researching Q: What is the Role of "iste" in These Quotes from Cicero?, I came across this line in Cicero's "Epistulae ad Atticum 15.20.3": Pompeium Carteia receptum scribis;...
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Quid est opus quod Cicerō in Dē senectūte § 75 prōfert?

In opere Cicerōnis Dē senectūte ipse dīxit: «quod scrīpsī in Orīginibus» (§ 75). Quid est hoc opus? Quid est nōmen rēctum sibī anglicum? In pāginā interrētis Lacus Curtius nōmen operis Orīgō in ...
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Why is Cicero considered the best Latin prose author?

Marcus Tullius Cicero is often considered as the best Latin prose author (and sometimes as the best orator, see Encyclopaedia Britannica). What is so special about his style to support such a claim? ...
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Is this use of elliptical neuter superlatives un-Ciceronian?

This may be an oddly specific question, but I've run across comments online that suggest the following usages found in Pliny the Elder's Natural History would not be valid in the Latin of Cicero: Ad ...
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Meaning of the first line of Cicero's De Oratore

The very first line of Cicero's De Oratore reads as follows Cogitanti mihi saepenumero et memoria vetera repetenti perbeati fuisse, Quinte Frater, illi videri solent, qui in optima re publica, cum et ...
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"gerund + genitive" vs "gerund+accusative" ("scribendo epistulas" vs "scribendo epistularum")

So far I was thinking the way of saying "He spends time in writing letters" (example from A&G) might be terit tempus scribendo epistulas or terit tempus scribendis epistulis. But can ...
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The Role of "quem" in a Translation of Cicero

Cicero "de Oratione" (2.86.351): "iam istuc quantum tibi ego reliquerim, inquit Antonius, erit in tua potestate. Si enim vere agere volueris, omnia tibi relinquo; sin dissimulare, tu ...
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Quis opera Ciceronia partivit in capitula intervallaque?

Accidit permirum mihi in nunnullis operis Ciceronibus legendis numeros capitulorum et intervallorum alteros ab alteris dissentire. Exspectem unum capitulum ex pluribus intervallis consistere, et ...
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On the syntax of 'Cogitate quantis laboribus fundatum imperium (...) una nox paene delerit' (Cic. Cat. 4, 19)

Picking up the thread of analyzing beautiful structures involving participles in Cicero's works (e.g. see this link), I'd like to raise a question about the syntax of the following complex sentence. ...
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On the syntax of some datives in a beautiful Ciceronian structure

I was wondering if you would like to share your thoughts on the grammar of the datives in the following texts from Cicero. The second example is a very interesting one provided by Kingshorsey in an ...
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Uter vs. Uterque

The way I learned 'uter' and 'uterque' was as follows. 'Uter' is like the Greek 'πότερος', meaning (in interrogative uses) 'which, of two?' and (in non-interrogative uses) 'either, of two'. I learned ...
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Cicero's De Finibus (looking for the original sentence that translate to "to be chosen but not to be desired.")

I love the Stoic doctrine and I would like to know from the original text (see excerpt under), the sentence that can capture the essence of one of the Stoic doctrine, that can be translated in modern ...
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Translation of de Natura Deorum, 53

“Infima est quinque errantium terraeque proxuma stella Veneris, quae Φωσφόρος Graece, Latine dicitur Lucifer, cum antegreditur solem, cum subsequitur autem Hesperos," Source: M. Tullius Cicero, de ...
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Did Cicero say or write "dubitando ad veritatem pervenimus"?

I have seen the phrase "Dubitando ad veritatem pervenimus." attributed to Cicero in some websites and books, some of them claiming to find it in De officiis (for instance Diccionario Akal Del ...
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What is the meaning of this quote by Marcus Tullius Cicero?

I came across this quote: "Laudant quae sciunt, vituperant quae ignorant; laudare a bonis et vituperari a malis unun atque idem est." It was attributed to Cicero, but it seems that this ...
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Descriptive example of Cicero's style

Cicero has produced quite a lot of Latin prose in what is considered excellent style. I would like to find ways to demonstrate briefly what Cicero's style is all about. If you had to demonstrate ...
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Why does Cicero in his In Verrem pretend he has not heard of Praxiteles before?

In Cicero In Verrem, II, iv, 4, unum Cupidinis marmoreum Praxiteli; nimirum didici etiam, dum in istum inquiro, artificum nomina. idem, opinor, artifex eiusdem modi Cupidinem fecit illum qui est ...
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Why did Cicero switch from "abs te" to "a te" in his later works?

Lewis and Short, in their entry on ab, describe a shift in use of abs in Cicero's works that had far-reaching ramifications: The use of abs was confined almost exclusively to the combination abs te ...
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"vel" in Tusculan Disputations V.iii

In the Tusculan Disputations V.iii, Cicero writes about Pythagoras declaring that life seems to him like the great Greek games: Nam ut illic alii corporibus exercitatis gloriam et nobilitatem ...
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"omniaque perpeti ipsa" in De Finibus

In De Finibus 48, Cicero writes Qui ingenuis studiis atque artibus delectantur, nonne videmus eos nec valetudinis nec rei familiaris habere rationem omniaque perpeti ipsa cognitione et scientia ...
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What is the meaning of "ratio" in the second Catilinarian V.9?

Having finally gotten a basic handle on the sorts of things rés can mean, I find myself stymied by ratió. I've understood it as meaning essentially "process of (logical) thinking," and that tends to ...
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Meaning of "S. P. D." in letters

I have been reading Cicero's letters in translation on the Perseus.uchicago.edu site, but check the Latin to improve my limited ability. Most of the letters include S. P. D. in the salutation, and I ...
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