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The conjugation tables of irregular Latin verbs that I have seen do not give any imperative forms for the verb velle. The verb nolle has the imperative forms noli and nolite, and they are fairly common. I found no hits for the forms voli, volite and velite in a corpus search, and all hits for veli seem to be from the noun velum. Have the imperative forms of velle ever been used in Latin of any era? If yes, what are they?

There are some rare cases where one might want to use such imperatives. I heard a nice speech in Finnish in December, and it made use of similar imperatives at a key point. To get an idea of how the situation, consider the following fictive speech excerpt:

I could ask you to serve your country. But I will not. The most important thing is not that you always succeed or that you even try in every single situation, but that you always want to do the best for your country. Want to serve your country!

I am not asking how to work around the seemingly missing imperatives; that is covered in another question. I am asking whether they are really missing. Do ask for details if the question is not clear enough.

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    I would venture to say that "want" lacks an imperative in English, too, but I think it's the better choice here, since "have the desire!" is easily translated "Studium habe(te)!" – Joel Derfner Jan 10 '17 at 20:36
  • @JoelDerfner Writing that order in English was not exactly within my comfort zone, so I won't oppose to a native speaker editing it into something more idiomatic and intuitive – while keeping an imperative verb in a similar manner. There's no issue in Finnish, though... – Joonas Ilmavirta Jan 10 '17 at 21:52
  • Okay, I've edited. Feel free to revert if you don't like it. The Finnish verb for "want" has an imperative? Fascinating! I wonder how many other languages there are like this. – Joel Derfner Jan 10 '17 at 22:23
  • @JoelDerfner Aeschylus uses the aorist imperative of "ἐθέλω": "θέλησον" – brianpck Jan 10 '17 at 22:44
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It was vel. From the LSJ:

old imperative of volo properly, "will, choose, take your choice;" "hence."

You cannot use it for your purpose, of course. This is merely its origin, but not its function.* In years of reading everything from Andronicus to Augustine, I've yet to see a real imperative of velle, and no grammar mentions one, either.

*See comments by fdb on de Vaan's etymology, where he disputes this origin in favor of a 2nd sing.

  • Vel looks like a singular. Does LSJ give a plural? Velte? – Joonas Ilmavirta Jan 11 '17 at 6:36
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    Current etymological thinking (e.g. de Vaan) is that “vel” is not an imperative, but the old form of the 2nd sing. *wel-si > *well > *vel “if you wish”. – fdb Jan 11 '17 at 11:09
  • In any event, whatever the etymology, the Romans did not perceive "vel" as a verbal form, but as a conjunction. – fdb Jan 11 '17 at 11:14
  • @JoonasIlmavirta I should have made that clearer. When I said "you cannot use it for your purpose," I meant that it cannot be used in Latin as an imperative. I was merely mentioning its origins, not its function. There is no imperative for velle in use in ancient Latin. – C. M. Weimer Jan 11 '17 at 13:43
  • Thanks for the clarification! If the conclusion is that there never really was an imperative, could you make it more explicit in your answer? It makes sense that vel is the closest thing to an imperative there ever was, but I did misinterpret at first. – Joonas Ilmavirta Jan 11 '17 at 13:47

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