Timeline for Is it possible to have an imperative feel without using the imperative form of a verb?
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Sep 2, 2021 at 2:53 | comment | added | Sebastian Koppehel | @Mitomino oops, I am quite sorry, for whatever reason the mobile version of SE offers no auto-completion, and for manual entry, eheu, farcimina pro digitis habere videor :/ | |
Sep 1, 2021 at 14:44 | comment | added | Mitomino | @SebastianKoppehel Many thanks for providing me this link. I've taken a look at it and I've seen that it's quite detailed. BTW, please note that my nickname is Mitomino (not Mitonimo). I'm just pointing it out to you because if you've have replied to other comments of mine, I won't have received them in my inbox. | |
Sep 1, 2021 at 7:27 | comment | added | Sebastian Koppehel | @Mitonimo my go-to resource has lately been, mirabile dictu, the Wikipedia article on Latin word order, which is amazingly detailed and seems to be well-researched and based, at least in part, on relatively recent research. Unfortunately it has little to say on the initial sit here. | |
Aug 31, 2021 at 21:10 | comment | added | Mitomino | Yes, to put the verb sit at the beginning of the sentence seems a more natural option. BTW, I was not asking for theoretical "linguistic treatments" of information structure like the ones included in the link above but rather for more applied materials, i.e. with a L2 learner-based perspective. I'd be interested in taking a look at practical materials that help the learner to acquire Latin word order from general to more specific aspects (the materials I know of are too general and even quite vague and don't address the topic of Latin word order as its complexity would deserve). | |
Aug 31, 2021 at 19:33 | comment | added | Sebastian Koppehel | I also thought the sentence would benefit from a little helping of quisque, but that is non-trivial and would need a complete overhaul of the structure, I think. | |
Aug 31, 2021 at 19:31 | comment | added | Sebastian Koppehel | @Mitonimo I wanted to change as little as possible in the sentence; otherwise my intuition would be to put the sit at the beginning of the sentence, memor of examples like "Sit venia verbo," "Sit laus Deo patri," "Sit terra tibi levis" and others. Linguistic treatments of the subject are way above my pay grade... | |
Aug 31, 2021 at 17:33 | comment | added | Mitomino | I agree with your suggestion. Given the marked modality of the sentence, I was wondering if the most natural word order would be the one you've given. By the way, do you know if there are any good materials/books/... to learn the information structure facts of Latin? I know there are some technical works (e.g. classics.stanford.edu/sites/g/files/sbiybj10936/f/devine_cv.pdf ) on this very important issue, which is, by the way, often neglected by those who speak Latin, even by the ones who are considered to speak it "fluently". I'd be happy to consult these materials if available. | |
Aug 30, 2021 at 19:18 | comment | added | Sebastian Koppehel | @Adam Declension-wise, domus is a wild mix of 2nd and 4th declension forms ;-) | |
Aug 30, 2021 at 19:09 | comment | added | Adam | Thanks! I hadn't considered a subjunctive. I also forgot that domus is 2nd declension feminine. Every student should study. :P | |
Aug 30, 2021 at 18:52 | history | answered | Sebastian Koppehel | CC BY-SA 4.0 |