Timeline for Ancient Greek Romans 1:27 - I don't understand this phrase through a straight translation into English
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| Oct 11, 2020 at 13:23 | comment | added | Mardymar | @Draconis Where did the 'having sex' part come from? Is there a greater Greek idiom on this? | |
| Oct 11, 2020 at 13:19 | answer | added | Mardymar | timeline score: 0 | |
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| Oct 11, 2020 at 2:45 | comment | added | Mardymar | @Draconis Reading your comment again, I think I now see what you meant. I must have read something into it. This euphemism, can it come from ideas earlier in the text? The greater story is about pagan's falling away from God. When I read your comment, I think I just got excited about the connection 'original sin' leading to 'shame' (like Adam and Eve feeling shame for their nakedness (ησχύνοντο)), and I missed the point of what you were saying. | |
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| Oct 11, 2020 at 1:11 | comment | added | Draconis♦ | @Mardymar In the original Greek, there doesn't seem to be any connection between the "shame" (ἀσχημοσύνη) and the "consequence" (ἀντιμισθία). The first is part of a euphemism for (presumably) having sex, and the second is about the results of the sex. Where does the equation of the two come from? | |
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| Oct 10, 2020 at 23:43 | history | edited | Mardymar | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Oct 10, 2020 at 23:37 | comment | added | Mardymar | @Draconis I've made some edits. I couldn't really find a way for this to make sense in modern English without 3 sentences and repeating 'shame' twice to make sure the consequence connection was still there. | |
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| Oct 10, 2020 at 23:13 | comment | added | Mardymar | @JoonasIlmavirta Although, to be fair, there are some parts of Plato that we will never know, either. That guy talked some really weird stuff sometimes ... | |
| Oct 10, 2020 at 23:11 | comment | added | Mardymar | @JoonasIlmavirta Thank you for the welcome! I just study language, not theology. That's why I think I would fit in better at this site. I'm doing a couple words and phrases in the bible right now, because some of them are almost like a detective game trying to navigate all the politicization (forgive me if your religious) that went on. Modern scholars have started to unravel some of this, but there is still a long way to go and we may never even really know. | |
| Oct 10, 2020 at 21:43 | comment | added | Joonas Ilmavirta♦ | @Mardymar I hope you've found this site more welcoming! While any community has limits to how far from some standard approaches one can go, asking for alternative readings and the uniqueness of a particular interpretation from the point of view of the language itself is most certainly within our scope. I am happy to see questions like this on our site. Welcome aboard! | |
| Oct 10, 2020 at 21:39 | history | edited | Joonas Ilmavirta♦ |
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| Oct 10, 2020 at 21:29 | comment | added | Draconis♦ | One issue with the translation you've added: the shame itself isn't said to be the necessary consequence. The Greek says they created shame (a euphemism) and (και) took on the consequence for going astray. | |
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| Oct 10, 2020 at 18:25 | comment | added | Mardymar | @fdb They don't like me, and I don't care much for them. That's why I'm here. | |
| Oct 10, 2020 at 18:23 | comment | added | Mardymar | @fdb They don't like me there because I challenge the 'standard' interpretation of words. I look at words in greater contexts than they are willing to consider and pretty much have all my questions closed. They say that since I don't accept the standard 'tools', I am stating an opinion and 'no opinions are allowed here'. | |
| Oct 10, 2020 at 16:47 | answer | added | Draconis♦ | timeline score: 8 | |
| Oct 10, 2020 at 16:47 | comment | added | fdb | This type of question usually is treated in "Biblical hermeneutics" | |
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| Oct 10, 2020 at 16:12 | history | asked | Mardymar | CC BY-SA 4.0 |